Two Failed States.

Frantically try to legitimise each other.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56938268

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-56940075

It is always slightly amusing.

When the people whose asses you've been kicked for the best part of 15 years. Start listing junior positions they think you might be good enough for.

If they want to know whether they're ever going to be able to progress. They should look at how they're answering the question;

"Is anything post-2006 going to be allowed to stand in the way?"